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FAIL in fast2__qwen3.6-35b-a3b__20260707-224105 (qTiRRpV, 32 min wall, clean
stop, reward 0). The looping the run showed from outside happened entirely in
the parent/root session — the only subagent call was one scout at the very
start, which worked fine (25 child turns, returned a solid codebase report at
+2 min). Planner/worker/self-test/reviewer were never called; after the scout
report the root did everything itself, so post-scout this trial behaved like
MinimalPi. NB the earlier SubagentsPi run …145458 (xs8eXBr) PASSED this task
in 79 min — mixed history, the task is solvable for 35b.
runtime/shared_heap.c, identifies a plausible
off-by-one in pool_sweep's free-block run-length skip and edits it
(p += wh * Wosize_hd(hd) … p += Whsize_hd(hd) →
p += wh * (Wosize_hd(hd) + 1) with the Whsize advance moved into the
else branch). Rebuilds runtime, cp runtime/ocamlrun boot/ocamlrun.make coldstart still dies
Segmentation fault at OCAMLC camlinternalFormatBasics.cmi (fix wrong or
incomplete). Reading the make V=1 output, the model's thinking (pi.txt line
233) says: "I see! The actual command includes -nopervasatives" — a
hallucinated misreading of the real flag -nopervasives in
stdlib/Compflags. The misspelling never existed anywhere in the repo; it
lived only in the model's head, but it anchored the next 26 minutes.-nopervasatives (the typo) errors, while
-help | grep -c nopervas says the option exists → "contradiction". It
escalates to od/xxd hexdumps, strace, md5sum, env -i, python/node spawn
probes, /proc cmdline checks, LD_PRELOAD/alias hunts. It edits
stdlib/Compflags three times (remove -nopervasives → restore → remove
again; final state: removed, i.e. the build left sabotaged).boot/ocamlc -help | grep -c "nopervas" → always 1
- B: env -i … make camlinternalFormatBasics.cmi V=1 | head -1 | xargs -I{}
bash -c '{} …' → always Error: Unbound module Stdlib (exit 123,
expected once the flag was stripped from Compflags)
The thinking blocks repeat verbatim across cycles — one of the two
literally opens "OK, I've been going in circles for too long" every
time. Each turn is tiny (~100–160 output tokens, stopReason=toolUse), so
nothing in the harness fires: no length stops (write guard/recovery
idle), text length 0 (runaway recovery needs >8k chars of no-toolCall
TEXT), bash commands fast (bash_timeout=90 irrelevant), and the fast2 cap
was auto-dropped for the subagents harness. The context pruner DID fire
twice (pr:2, peak ctx 154k) — and changed nothing: pruning old tool
results does not perturb the tail of the context that feeds the
repetition. ~65% of the trial's wall clock burned here.tests.txt contains only make
Entering/Leaving — the required make -C testsuite one DIR=tests/basic
was never run. Reward 0. Totals: 557 turns, 140k output tokens, 59.8M
input (99.5% cache hit).;n;p;n;p…). Here every single generation
is short and locally sensible — the repetition is only visible across
turns. A duplicate-tool-call detector in the extension's tool_call hook
(hash of toolName+args, rolling window) is external-ground-truth Tier-1
per IDEAS-nudge-detectors.md: on the Nth exact repeat, block with a nudge
("you already ran this exact command N times with the same result — do
something different"). The error result also perturbs the context, which
may itself break the verbatim-repetition groove.
SHIPPED 2026-07-08 as the LOOP_GUARD knob (algorithm adapted from
the npm pi-loop-police extension; thresholds tuned on 102 passing trials;
deterministic gate scripts/check_loop_guard_logic.py + e2e
tool-loop-blocked 3/3). This trial's loop would have been blocked at its
2nd cycle, ~20 minutes earlier. Benchmark rerun still pending.rm -rf .pi-subagents ran at
trial end, so the scout's own session couldn't be inspected (open ledger
item to move it to /logs/agent instead; this analysis had to rely on the
parent-side tool result alone).-nopervasives stripped from Compflags. Nothing verified,
nothing reverted.ERR/CancelledError in fast2__qwen3.6-35b-a3b__20260708-073412 — the user
killed the trial at 1h28m (no verifier ran). Knobs were the tangled night
batch: loop_guard=on strip_thinking=on keep_tool_results=10
subagent_nudges=on bash_timeout=90, so this is NOT a clean loop-guard A/B.
Same night, 27b PASSED this task in 31m38s with identical knobs. Totals:
104 root turns, 3.35M input tokens (vs 59.8M in qTiRRpV — the context
strip cut replayed context ~18×) / 155k output.
Timeline (root session 06:38–08:06 UTC):
pool_sweep region, but now
with many turns saturating the 8k reasoning budget (out=8.2k tok, ~1 min
each; 16 such turns across the trial).LOOP DETECTED block on a repeated grep followed by a text-only
"Let me apply the fix using sed directly without re-reading the file" →
the child session ends with exit 1 ("planner failed"), fix NOT
applied. Root edits shared_heap.c itself and rebuilds.cats the child's session.jsonl tail-100: ≥48
LOOP DETECTED blocks in the child's last 100 events — the guard fired
constantly inside the child, but the child wove around it with small
argument variations, then died exit 1 right after another blocked read,
again announcing "I now have a thorough understanding … Let me implement
the fix" without implementing. NB pi-subagents returned BOTH failed
children with isError=False, so the nudges' errored-call exclusion and
the root's own perception treat them as successes.read shared_heap.c offset=578
with limit 25/35/40/50; sed -n '1255,1275p' major_gc.c vs its
head|tail equivalent), most turns burning the full 8k thinking budget.
The guard blocked 3 exact repeats in the root; the variations are
different hashes by design, so it can't fire. The 6×-re-read shape is
also consistent with the context-strip amnesia risk recorded in the
ledger (thinking stripped + old tool results stubbed = both memory
channels gone).Takeaways:
isError=False. Whether the
guard's error result causes the text-only reply or just precedes it
needs the child transcripts (open ledger item to preserve
.pi-subagents).