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RecursivePi + first-action FORCE — full smoke set

Third RecursivePi run: the read-only-scout harness with the first-action force block added (blocks non-rlm_query tool calls until the model delegates once, cap 4 blocks). Full smoke set, qwen3.6-35b-a3b, cap 1500s/trial. Compare to the no-force baseline smoke__…004419 (4/4, 10m14s, 0 delegation).

Result: 3/4 PASS (mean 0.75), 35m41s — a REGRESSION from 4/4 baseline.

task result total rlm_query children ok vs baseline
fix-git FAIL 15m53s 1 (+1 nested) 0 was PASS 59s
nginx-request-logging PASS 1m30s 1 2 was PASS 1m03s
openssl-selfsigned-cert PASS 2m12s 1 6 was PASS 1m10s
regex-log PASS 16m03s 1 5 was PASS 7m00s

The force works: every task delegated (1–2 force-blocks each, rlm_query fired on all 4, children reached llama-local in-container). So the mechanism is fully validated end-to-end in containers.

But forcing delegation is net-NEGATIVE here: - 4/4 → 3/4, and ~3.5× slower wall clock (each forced child is a fresh prefill on the single shared llama-swap slot). - fix-git PASS→FAIL is the sharp lesson: the forced exploration child (which is READ-ONLY) itself recursed (depth 1→2, RLM_MAX_DEPTH=2) asking a grandchild to "run git commands and return the output" — but read-only children have only read,grep,find,ls,rlm_query, so the grandchild could not run git, stuck, and the whole tree hit the 900s RLM_TIMEOUT (~15 min burned). The root then did the git recovery itself but botched the conflict resolution (wrote only "I am a Postdoctoral Researcher at Stanford CS.", dropping the second paragraph the incoming commit kept) → verifier FAIL. Not cut by the outer cap; failed on its own.

Takeaway: the model's spontaneous non-delegation in the no-force run was the CORRECT behavior for these action-oriented tasks. A read-only scout is the wrong tool for "run git commands / write files"; forcing it wastes the shared slot and can derail the task. Read-only-scout delegation should only pay off where there is a genuinely large, separable READ/analysis subtask (big log/file, wide codebase search) — none of the smoke tasks have one.

Concrete fixes if pursued: (1) RLM_MAX_DEPTH=1 for the read-only-scout design — grandchildren add nothing and caused the fix-git tree timeout; (2) do NOT force delegation unconditionally — make it opt-in per task, or trigger only when the root context is actually large; (3) the read-only child asked to "run commands" is a prompt mismatch — the scout prompt should say the child can only read/search, not run state-changing commands.

💬 3 analyst comments inline below (from runs/smoke__qwen3.6-35b-a3b__20260710-010908/COMMENTS.md).

Run details

modelllama-local/qwen3.6-35b-a3bagentharnesses.recursive_pi:RecursivePithinkingonreasoning budgetdirect (server/none)* — see journal for the authoritative mechanismmaxTokens / contextWindow65536 / 196608agent timeout ×2.0trials4 of 4 — 3 pass · 1 failmean reward0.75tokens (job total)2,404,479 in / 74,401 outstarted / finished2026-07-10T01:09 / 2026-07-10T01:44wall clock35m41s

Tasks

fix-git — 0/1 passed

💬 analyst comment

Forced-delegation regression (PASS 59s → FAIL 15m53s). The first-action force made the root delegate exploration to a READ-ONLY child; that child itself recursed (depth 1→2) and asked a grandchild to "run git commands and return the output" — but read-only children only have read/grep/find/ls/rlm_query, so the grandchild could not run git, stuck, and the whole tree hit the 900s RLM_TIMEOUT (~15 min burned). The root then did the recovery itself but botched the merge conflict (wrote only the Stanford line, dropping the second paragraph the incoming commit kept) → verifier FAIL. Read-only scout is the wrong tool for an action/write task; forcing it here only wasted the shared slot.

#resulttotalagentin/out tokflags
1FAIL15m53s15m19s79558/2355
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Two force-blocks fired before the model delegated; the useful work all happened AFTER "The child agent timed out. Let me investigate this directly." — i.e. the forced delegation contributed nothing but 15 min of latency.

nginx-request-logging — 1/1 passed

#resulttotalagentin/out tokflags
1PASS1m30s54s116506/3185
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openssl-selfsigned-cert — 1/1 passed

#resulttotalagentin/out tokflags
1PASS2m12s1m38s101059/3689
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regex-log — 1/1 passed

💬 analyst comment

Still PASS but 7m00s → 16m03s: the forced scout child (5 children ok) roughly doubled wall clock for no correctness gain — the root already solves regex-log directly.

#resulttotalagentin/out tokflags
1PASS16m03s15m19s2107356/65172
long reasoning (18,474 chars) ×2
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